MAYDAY MAYDAY MAYDAY Ukraine Helicopter Shot Down

by amongthenumberedsaints

The military’s iconic Black Hawk helicopter will soon be available pilot optional.

The Black Hawk UH-60, immortalized in Ridley Scott’s war film, been a mainstay for the army since the late ’70s, chiefly used to transport troops and provisions to and from the battlefield. Now the aircraft’s manufacturer, Sikorsky, is developing a robocopter version of the UH-60 to do the same tasks more efficiently and without putting humans at risk.

It’s controlled from a ground control station but can make crucial flying decisions without any human input, based on its ‘Matrix’ proprietary artificial intelligence technology. Yup, the control system is called the Matrix.

“Without urgent, coordinated action by many stakeholders, the world is headed for a post-antibiotic era, in which common infections and minor injuries which have been treatable for decades can once again kill,” Keiji Fukuda, WHO’s assistant director-general for health security, said in a statement. Without action, “the world will lose more and more of these global public health goods and the implications will be devastating.”

It’s Official: Superbugs Are Everywhere, and They’re Getting Worse

In a crass and ill-timed intervention, the unelected president of the European Council Herman Van Rompuy has warned Vladimir Putin that the EU intends ultimately to control every country on the western flank of Russia.


In an interview with De Standaard newspaper, Van Rompuy speaks about his “dreams” that all the Balkan states will join the EU. He calls it an “inspiring thought” that in the long term “the whole of European territory outside Russia” will be tied in some way to the EU. He admits he does not know if there is public support for such a move, “But we do it anyway.”
Van Rompuy’s comments, released in the midst of the tensions which have followed moves by Brussels to put Ukraine on the path to EU membership, give credence to Putin’s fears that ultimately the EU intends to put its tanks on Russia’s lawn.
Building a common EU defence is one of the strategic priorities for the Brussels elite who are trying to build “a country called Europe.”

Most people in Britain are unaware of it, but a commitment by Britain and the other member states to common foreign, security and defence policies was written into the Maastricht Treaty of 1992.
In recent years the EU has deepened the integration of the military forces of member states with the framing of the Common Security and Defence Policy. German Chancellor Angela Merkel and French President Francois Hollande are the leading voices for a common defence force for the EU.

Um. You know why those complaining may “lack knowledge of what is going on in the negotiations”? Perhaps it’s because the USTR — a part of the Obama White House — has insisted that the entire negotiations take place in complete secrecy with no transparency at all. If President Obama doesn’t want conspiracy theories about the agreement, and wishes that its critics were more informed about the negotiations, he can change that today by instructing the USTR to release its negotiating positions and promise to make all future negotiating positions public.

But he won’t do that. Why? Because the USTR has admitted that if the public knew what was going on with the TPP, it wouldn’t support the agreement. And so the negotiations continue in secret. And the President Obama gets frustrated about a lack of knowledge and conspiracy theories? Really?

Obozo 666 Complains That TPP Critics Are ‘Conspiracy Theorists’ Who ‘Lack Knowledge’ About Negotiations.

Government corruption may be at an all time high in history. I can find few periods where the state has hunted down its own people other than during the collapse of Rome. I have written about Maximinus who was declared Emperor by the troops and just consider them as government workers. Maximinus simply declared ALL PRIVATE wealth in the nation belonged to the state to pay the troops (government workers) so that government could retain its power. This was the first attempt at a Communist-Fascist State hybrid.

Martin Armstrong Asks “Are We Headed Into Global Fascism?” <—Yes/666 is already here.

The Founders knew best. Any sort of direct taxation against an individual necessitates a loss of liberty, freedom, and rights. In the USA, you cannot be imprisoned for NOT paying your taxes. They imprison you for not telling them you owe taxes. This is the lawyer-politicians again and how they circumvent the fundamental principles of the constitution all the time. This is no different from locking-up people who protest by claiming they lacked a permit or walked on the grass. In Russia, they just lock you up and don’t bother to pretend you have rights. There is no real difference.

This hunt for taxation on a global scale is simply outrageous. They track $3,000 now, not billions.

Who needs tax authorities keeping tabs on people when banks are increasingly taking on a similar role?
An HSBC customer who wrote to economist Martin Armstrong related how the bank, which itself was culpable of acting as a conduit for “drug kingpins and rogue nations” in 2012, is now interrogating its account holders on how they earn and spend their money.

The story is yet another illustration of how major banks are beginning to function more and more as spies for the state, quizzing their customers on their income and spending habits while demanding paperwork and explanations for them to take out their own cash.

In January it emerged that HSBC was restricting large cash withdrawals for UK customers from £5000 upwards, forcing them to provide documentation of what they plan to spend the money on, a form of capital control that more and more banks are beginning to adopt.

As we reported back in November, Chase Bank also recently imposed restrictions which prevent its customers from conducting over $50,000 in cash activity per month, as well as banning business customers from sending international wire transfers.
In the same month it was also reported that two of the biggest banks in America were stuffing their ATMs with 20-30 per cent more cash than usual in order to head off a potential bank run if the US defaults on its debt.
The recent spate of unusual banker suicides and mysterious deaths has also prompted concerns that the financial system isn’t as healthy as it is being portrayed by the mass media.

here is increasing evidence to suggest that Israel’s far-right leaders have tacitly accepted the eventuality of an Iran-P5+1 nuclear deal. Until now, Israel has conceded no Iranian right to enrich uranium. It has always demanded any nuclear deal include an Iranian concession to stop enrichment, which in effect stops any nuclear program.

Israel Accepting Iran Deal as Fait Accompli

The Israeli correspondent further points out that the May 5th date for the talks falls precisely on Israeli Independence Day. He surmises that this may be a deliberate statement by the U.S. that it is willing to tell the world that this agreement will further secure, rather than endanger Israel’s continued independence and existence. Not to mention it’s a possible poke in the ribs of PM Netanyahu by a U.S. president who has no love lost for him. Melman adds that this may be a further sign that Israel’s maximalist policy toward Iran has failed.

Feast Of Tabernacles

Former US president Bill Clinton said Wednesday that the Palestinians were offered the Temple Mount at the Camp David Summit in 2000, but the agreement fell through over a sliver of land near the Western Wall

Bill Clinton: Israel offered Temple Mount to Palestinians in 2000

However, Clinton said, no agreement was reached under his aegis because although Israel, under Barak, agreed to give up 96 percent of the West Bank, the Palestinians, under Arafat, “never said yes.”

Netanyahu wants to define Israel as Jewish state in law

Former pope Benedict XVI spread consternation in the catholic world this morning as he claimed in a press conference rebroadcasted live on FM german catholic radio station, Radio Horeb, that a group of jesuits had infiltrated the Vatican and were pursuing what he called an “alien agenda”. The first pope to retire from his position in 598 years expressed his feelings of deception as “a sinister group of members of the Vatican” were pushing on for the search for extra-terrestrial life through their Lucifer 2 Large Binocular Telescope based at Vatican Observatory on Mt. Graham in Tucson, USA.

Former Pope warns of Vatican Alien Agenda 

The Vatican made front news earlier this month when José Gabriel Funes, an Argentine Jesuit priest and astronomer, and the current director of the Vatican Observatory, sponsored a major conference in collaboration with NASA entitled The Search for Life Beyond the Solar System: Exoplanets, Biosignatures & Instruments and announced the purchase of a new 2 M$ lens for its Lucifer 2 Large Binocular Telescope.

“Just as there is a multiplicity of creatures on earth, there can be other beings, even intelligent, created by God. This is not in contrast with our faith because we can’t put limits on God’s creative freedom. Why can’t we speak of a ‘brother extraterrestrial’? It would still be part of creation” answered Vatican Observatory director, José Gabriel Funes, when asked about the role of extra-terrestrial life in the catholic faith.

Beast Tech Advances Targeting 2017 — Just As Documented In New Book By Horn, Terry Cook

Biometrics news and break throughs as companies continue to develop smart technologies for m-Commerce platforms: NXT-ID, Inc. (OTCBB: NXTD), Facebook, Inc. (NASDAQ: FB), Google Inc. (NASDAQ: GOOG), Groupon, Inc. (NASDAQ: GRPN), Apple Inc. (NASDAQ: AAPL) and Vodafone Group Public Limited Company (NASDAQ: VOD)

NXT-ID, Inc. (OTCBB: NXTD), a biometric authentication company focused on the growing m-commerce market, is pleased to announce the company was featured in a recently released report by research firm Mind Commerce, entitled “Mobile Identity Infrastructure, Applications, and Services 2014 – 2019.” Companies featured in the report included Centrify, Facebook, Inc. (NASDAQ: FB), Google (NASDAQ: GOOG), Groupon (NASDAQ: GRPN), Marketo, Inc. (NASDAQ: MKTO), NXT-ID, TeleSign, Valimo and Vodafone (NASDAQ: VOD).

NXT-ID is currently launching a marketing campaign for its smart wallet, Wocket(TM), designed to protect your identity and replace all the cards in your wallet, no smart phone required. A series of CNBC ads will start airing during prime-time hours commencing the week of May 12(th) , followed by a press conference and marketing event for media and shareholders May 28th at the Plaza Hotel in New York. Advance ordering will be available online following the event.

Night sky guide for May 2014

Baltimore street caves in a landslide as it’s hit with apocalyptic storm that spawned deadly tornadoes and epic floods in the South

Dobson, whose organization recently won a court fight against Obama over a mandate in Obamacare that would have required his ministry to pay for abortion pills, has not been shy about challenging the president on his abortion agenda.

At one point during the fight over the imposition of the abortion mandate, he said to the president: “Come and get me. I will not yield to your wicked regulations.”

The fact that Obama is more supportive of abortion than any other chief executive in the U.S. was touted by none other than Planned Parenthood.

“I believe in the rule of law, and it has been my practice since I was in college to respect and honor those in authority over us. It is my desire to do so now. However, this assault on the sanctity of human life takes me where I cannot go. I WILL NOT pay the surcharge for abortion services. The amount of the surcharge is irrelevant. To pay one cent for the killing of babies is egregious to me, and I will do all I can to correct a government that lies to me about its intentions and then tries to coerce my acquiescence with extortion. It would be a violation of my most deeply held convictions to disobey what I consider to be the principles in Scripture. The Creator will not hold us guiltless if we turn a deaf ear to the cries of His innocent babies. So come and get me if you must, Mr. President. I will not bow before your wicked regulation.”

Dobson tears into Obama: ‘Come and get me’

Just how does one even begin to understand how the President would place people into positions that seem like placing the proverbial Fox in the Chicken Coop? Barack Obama has placed individuals who represent, or are a part of, the Muslim Brotherhood into high security positions. Is this due to the fact that Obama is a Muslim? Is this due to the fact that Obama may think that showing the Muslim community he has placed Muslims in high positions will stop them from hating the United States? Could this be due to his Marxist ideology he developed while at Occidental College? Maybe, just maybe, it is because Obama just does not wish for the United States to be strong and he wants to show the world the United States is not the leader it once was. One thing Obama has shown to the world is that he is not a world leader nor is he an American leader.

Sharia Advisors – Barack Obama’s Muslim Appointees in High Security Positions

Now this guy sounds bad. Could you think of what he would have done had he lived and worked with Bill Ayers in the Weather Underground? To have this man as the head of your “Advisory Council on Faith-Based Neighborhood Partnerships” just seems to be extending a hand to the devil himself!

The Missing Benghazi Email
New evidence that Ben Rhodes told Susan Rice and Hillary Clinton to blame the video

Boehner issued a statement Wednesday night saying, “Four Americans lost their lives in Benghazi, and this White House has gone to extraordinary lengths to mislead, obstruct, and obscure what actually took place.

‘Smoking gun’ Benghazi email prompts renewed push for select committee

A former CIA gun runner revealed that the U.S. Ambassador to Libya, J. Christopher Stevens, was killed in the Sept. 11, 2012 attack on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi in order to cover up the U.S. State Department’s direct arm shipments to al-Qaeda.

Relations have been strained between predominantly Sunni Muslim Saudi Arabia and Saddam’s successor, Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki, whose Shiite-led government is backed by Tehran.

In March, Maliki charged that Saudi Arabia and neighbouring Qatar were supporting terrorism worldwide, which drew harsh criticism from the kingdom, Iran’s rival across the Gulf.

In November, Iraqi pro-Iranian Shiite group Jaish al-Mukhtar claimed it had fired six mortar rounds into a remote area of northeastern Saudi Arabia as a “warning” to the kingdom.

Meanwhile, three Saudi soldiers were killed by gunmen who fired from across the border with Yemen to the south, which is frequently crossed by smugglers and by Islamists seeking to join Al-Qaeda militants in the impoverished nation.

In 2009, Saudi forces fought a war against Shiite Huthi rebels on the Yemeni border.

Saudi ends ‘largest’ manuevers in its history

Previously, citizens could refuse an officer’s request to search a vehicle. In most cases, the officer would then need a warrant — signed by a judge — to conduct the search.
That’s no longer the case, according to the opinion written by Supreme Court Justice Seamus McCaffery.
The ruling, passed on a 4-2 vote, was made in regard to an appeal from a 2010 vehicle stop in Philadelphia.
Local police and legal professionals are calling the opinion “big news.”

“This is a significant change in long-standing Pennsylvania criminal law, and it is a good one,” Lancaster County District Attorney Craig Stedman said Wednesday afternoon.

MaYDaY 2014

Many of the public services that government has promised get curtailed, or cut entirely.

The people have held up their end of the bargain. They’ve traded in their freedoms and their income in exchange for services. But the government hasn’t held up theirs.

And because the government has a monopoly on many of these services, suddenly people find themselves without something they have come to depend on.

This is precisely what has happened in Argentina. As the economy continues to struggle from an absurd level of money printing, unemployment and inflation are both painfully high.

Many Argentines are desperate. Crime rates have soared. But the police are utterly worthless.

Once peaceful citizens have been driven to desperation as a result. They’re afraid… and they’re taking matters into their own hands, roaming the streets in lynch gangs.

This isn’t some neighborhood watch or citizen justice program.

They form these gangs out of desperation, signalling that Argentina’s social contract has completely disintegrated.

As I’ve long-written, there are consequences to destructive economic policy.

Central bankers cannot conjure infinite quantities of currency out of thin air, nor can politicians borrow more money just to pay interest on what they’ve already borrowed, all without consequence.

This is one of those consequences—a complete breakdown of the social contract, giving rise to something so Medieval as lynch gangs and mob justice.

Can it happen where you live? Maybe. No nation is immune to the social effects of economic decay (think Detroit, or even New Orleans after Hurricane Katrina…).

When every shred of data suggests that major western economies are decaying rapidly under the weight of excessive debt and paper currency, it’s foolish to presume that ‘it can’t happen here’.

Anyone knows, who has half of an eye open, that American citizens are soon to become an endangered species under our present lunatic President.

Everyone should know that all of our constitutional protections against an out-of-control globalist puppet regime are melting away right before our very eyes.

Everyone knows that Obama, under the NDAA, has the legal authority to “disappear” all political opponents without so much as a trace.

Everyone knows that American economy was driven over the fiscal cliff in 2008 when Congress permitted the bankers to plunder our tax revenues and, today, we are just waiting for the official eulogy that the American economy is dead and the real “hunger games” are about to commence.

Everyone knows that when the Obama puppet masters in the Federal Reserve are done plundering what is left of our pensions, our social security, our private property and our 401k’s, that the economy will be collapsed once and for all. And then, what will the American people do? They will do what any generation of Americans would do, they will take to the streets in an attempt to rid themselves of the corrupt banker controlled government which has ruined this country. Sadly, this last ditch desperate attempt at regaining our lost liberties will not have a happy ending.

Will American Troops Carry Out Genocidal Orders?

Will American troops follow the genocidal orders surely to be delivered by Obama? Will they begin to secretly arrest perceived dissidents? Will the military follow orders to shoot to kill American citizens who will be desperately looking for their next meal? With FEMA’s performance following Hurricanes Katrina and Sandy, will there even be a next meal? Don’t hold your breath.

When the irresistible force meets the immovable object, what will happen? Will American troops fire, when ordered, upon their American brothers and sisters? There are two possible answers to this question. First, it is a known fact that the military is programmed in boot camp to follow orders like a bunch of Pavlovian conditioned dogs who are well trained in the art of unquestionably carrying out the orders of their superiors without hesitation. From a military training perspective, there can be little doubt that American soldiers will not only fire upon American protesters, but most will do so without the slightest amount of hesitation or conscience. However, the field of psychology provides an even more accurate view of why we can expect the American military to do in the coming desperate times.

Not only will our military fire upon us, their fellow citizens, but they will also willingly participate in the round up of dissidents, and the extermination of these dissidents in what has become known FEMA Camps, which will surely accompany the coming martial law. NORTHCOM has been training for this since the 1990′s.

It is somewhat ironic, actually make that criminal, that two days after new SEC head Mary Jo White (whose conflict of interest list is so vast courtesy of her prior position as defending every Wall Street from their criminal acts she now has to recuse herself from virtually every enforcement action) solemnly promised Congress under oath that the “markets are not rigged”, the SEC comes out swinging and slaps the wrist of the NYSE with an intolerable $4.5 million fine for allowing market rigging “for a period of time from 2008 to 2012.”

Two Days After Swearing Market Isn’t Rigged, SEC Slaps NYSE Wrists For Rigging Markets

Or in other words, the SEC is claiming that for 5 years the NYSE was aiding and abetting the very same rigged market that the SEC swears does not exist.

It. Just. Does. Not. Compute.

^^^Yeah, it’s the spitting image of the beast, and well confirms not only the prophetic reality but the current grave danger and obvious threat. The fact that the SEC Chair has not yet been suicided proves she’s going to Hell a different way. The NWO 666  Socialist Standard Tyranny/AKA Crypto Fascists Fiat Bastards have lost their right to eternal life at this point, and there is no cause for any delay for their penalty to fall upon their evil dusty asses at any time, much less this lukewarm generation that remains unmoved by corruption. Is there a Saint or Prophet given a prayer for these hell bound fools? No. The SEC and Team Obozo 666 and everyone that accepts their deadly lawless criminal actions have no call to be secure whatsoever. How they go to Hell is not relevant, the fact that they have yet to be sent is. Every day the evil bastards live the beast requires it’s daily occult human ritual slaughter. That is the nature of the beast, and unless people make a personal effort, proving they are so moved, they become food for the fire and are counted among the damned.

You either resist the entire state-cartel system or your resistance is nothing but meaningless gestures aimed at chimera.

^^^The ”only” way of describing true resistance at this point is: If you are not now so moved and called out, you have accepted the mark of the beast and you are lost.

NATO’s second-in-command says Russia is now an enemy, not a partner

NATO Deputy Secretary General Alexander Vershbow now says that the allied group has been compelled to treat Russia “as more of an enemy than a partner,” according to an Associated Press report published Thursday.

The 61-year-old former United States ambassador to Russia reportedly told journalists this week that Moscow’s role in the ongoing crisis in Ukraine has forced NATO to reconsider the alliance’s opinion on Russia, and that additional troops may soon be mobilized to the region as tensions worsen.

Pro-Russian protesters storm prosecutor’s office in Ukraine’s Donetsk

Pro-Russian protesters stormed the prosecutor’s office in the separatist-held city of Donetsk on Thursday, lobbing stones and smashing windows after accusing the office of working for the Western-backed government in Kiev.

Donetsk, a city of about 1 million people in Ukraine’s industrial east, is at the center of an armed uprising across the steel and coal belt by mainly Russian-speakers threatening to secede from Ukraine.

Ukraine Admits “Helpless” Against Pro-Russian Forces; Reinstates Military Conscription

Days after acting Defense Minister Mykhailo Koval warned “the Armed Forces are not ready for this,” Ukraine has announced the return of military conscription. After Mr Turchynov admitted his security forces were ‘helpless’ to quash the pro-Moscow insurgency that has tightened its grip on the increasingly chaotic east of the country, Koval believes “if there were conscripts in military units, then the situation might be different.” Of course, this is exactly what the IMF ‘demanded’ as yet more cities in the East fall to pro-Russian separatists. We can only imagine how pro-Russian 20-23 year old men will feel when they get their call-up papers to fight… against themselves.

Ukrainian troops begin special operation in Slavyansk – reports

The Ukrainian army has reportedly begun a special operation against pro-autonomy activists in the eastern town of Slavyansk early Friday morning, as air raid sirens went off in the city and gunfire was heard.

Slovyank self-defense forces told RIA Novosti that the Ukrainian military has attacked several positions. Local activists say they’ve heard helicopters, shooting, and city sirens.

There are unconfirmed reports that a Ukrainian military helicopter has been shot down.

A video posted on YouTube reportedly shows the start of the special operation in Slavyansk:

Russia stages first Red Square May Day parade since Soviet days

Some facts about Great Britain must be brought out to get a clear picture of the Illuminati

Communism was originally a British idea, not Russian.

“That communism is a English invention is not a new idea. The articulation of communism was put forward by Karl Marx, whose mentor was British industrialist Frederick Engel’s. Their primary reason for the expounding of this politico economic ideology was to thwart the advance of democracy in the nation building principles expressed in the Monroe Doctrine (which was based upon George Washington’s advice of avoiding entanglements with Europe) These principles were beginning to be imported into Germany, and they posed a tremendous threat to British economic supremacy…….”1

The controllers of Britain were fearful of potential competition on the world scene. They didn’t want the rest of the world to industrialize and compete with British goods and markets. Thus came the Communist Manifesto and Das Capital, whose fundamentals at the time espoused international free trade which, of course, was a contradiction of the Monroe Doctrine’s ideology of protectionism.

Internationalism was of tremendous advantage to the British since they already had control of world markets, and a terrible disadvantage to the rest of the world, whose economies were already exploited by the British.

Communism was invented by British subjects, but its basic elements were taken from Illuminism. The basic strategy of communism was to stage economic war with continental Europe and the United States. The objective was the maintenance and control of world markets. The actual roots of communism go back to Adam Weishaupt.”

On May 1, 1776, The Illuminati is officially created and formed and headed by Adam Weishaupt and Mayer Rothschild, and of course Lucifer, or Satan.

Also of course on July 4, 1776 America declared its independence from Great Britain, and on September John Adams, Thomas Jefferson, and Benjamin Franklin were chosen to design the official seals of the United States of America.

The “Two Great Seals” of the United States are given to Thomas Jefferson at his home in Monticello on June 10, 1782.

If you do not already know about what is on your dollar bill and why it is there and what it stands for, you are in for a shock.


For a major part of the past year, it was occupied by Islamist Syrian rebels associated with al-Qaida who took advantage of its commanding position over Maaloula to help keep their grip on this Christian village. During the occupation of the village by the Saudi- and U.S.-supported rebels, strict Shariah law was enforced. Those Christians not able to flee were treated as slaves. Several Christian men were beheaded, and many of the women were forced into “temporary” marriages with multiple Islamic fighters.

Regardless of who is at fault for beginning and sustaining the horrid war in Syria that has killed over 100,000 and displaced more than 2 million, it is the Christian community that has suffered the worst. Islamist fighters have arrived from all over the world to fight jihad against the secular government of Syria. Many of the fiercest fighters are from the U.K. and France. The Chechen fighters behead every Christian they come across. Several Muslims from the United States, including one woman, have died fighting jihad in Syria. Many focus on enslaving and killing the remaining Christians rather than fighting the Syrian Army. Entire families in some Christian villages have been murdered.

No Mention of Benghazi Revelations on CBS Evening News

Emails uncovered by Judicial Watch reveal White House aid Ben Rhodes prepped Susan Rice prior to her Sunday show appearances to erroneously attribute the September 11, 2012 attack to an anti-Islam video.

However, it turns out Ben Rhodes is actually the brother David Rhodes, President of CBS News.

The lack of coverage this evening further evidences CBS’s clear conflict of interest in covering the Benghazi story. Free Beacon contributor Larry O’Connor writes:

20-year CIA employee and strategic policy expert Clare Lopez joins Rick Wiles to share explosive news, a ‘damming verdict’ that should lead to the indictment, arrest and imprisonment of Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton and a long list of other criminals in Washington. This verdict was reached by the Citizen’s Commission on Benghazi and the bombshell information contained herein shares that while under Obama, the United States “switched sides” in the war on terror and now openly supports the al-Qaeda terrorists.

The people joining Lopez on this commission included high-profile individuals such as Ret. General Paul Vallely, Ret. General Thomas McInerney, Ret. Admiral James Lyons, Ret. Lieutenant Colonel Allen West and many others from both the defense and intelligence community. The introduction is 50 seconds after which Rick shares his ‘explosive’ introduction. The segment of the show with Lopez begins at 9 minute 20 second for this bombshell report that should soon lead to the imprisonment of the criminals in Washington DC..

Remember in the early days of the embryonic stem cell debate being repeatedly assured that “all” the scientists wanted were ”leftover embryos due to be destroyed anyway” (from IVF) for use research?

It was always baloney. “The scientists” just wanted to get people used to destroying embryos as if they were a mere corn crop.

Now that human cloning has succeeded, “the scientists” are ready to move on in a more energetic manner to explicitly creating embryos for use and destruction in research–and they want government funding, meaning submitting to the appearance of “meaningful” regulatory control to get past predictable opposition to taxpayers paying for harvesting the corn.

Hence, a piece in Nature–one of the worlds’ two most important science journals–urging the regulation of what we could call planting embryo crops.

Sorry. I don’t trust scientists to impose any reasonable limits on each other. Moreover, industry self-regulation is merely an “appearance” of control as a sap to the public. For example, the UK’s embryo “never say no” Embryo Authority authorized the use of animal eggs in human cloning research).

Beyond that, the appearance of meaningful self-regulation would make it thereby easier to convince lawmakers and regulators to open the spigot to public funding.

No! Wesley’s Law needs to be repealed. That will require the legal prohibition on the creation of human embryos for destruction–as currently the law in Germany–whether by fertilization or cloning. Where that can’t be achieved due to Big Biotech’s special interest power, never permit public funding.

Bottom line: This issue is too important to just “let the scientists decide.”